From nobody Wed Aug 28 18:05:44 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: Problem with "Appartment" episode References: <akjc6p$5ek$1@newsflash.concordia.ca> Date: 28 Aug 2002 18:05:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 37 "Deborah Martin" <dak_mar@alcor&Mizar.concordia.ca> writes: > I don't know if this has ever been brought up but here goes. > When Matthew goes through his "game show" bit with Dave and Lisa, he > stops because "it's a tie". In fact, it's not a tie, Dave is > leading 2-1 at that point so, unless A&E has cut part of this scene, > someone goofed. I think you're right. Lisa gets a point for "from my own canteen." Lisa ahead 1-0. Lisa gets a point when Dave says this is stupid. Lisa 2-0. Dave gets a point for "changing my answer to soup." Lisa 2-1. Lisa loses a point for pointing out that Judge Reinhold is not a member of the Brat Pack. 1-1 tie. Dave gets a point for "if I were an alien, what would you call me." "Matthew!" Dave 2-1. However, I'm not sure that Matthew didn't also award points for the other "lightning round" questions. I think he was marking something with a pencil as he went through them. If he did award points for those questions (closest to the answer?) and Lisa got two of them, they'd be tied at 3-3. Or, as you suggest, A&E may have cut a question. Seems unlikely they'd cut something integral to the rest of the scene like that, but I guess you never know. -- Aaron From nobody Sun Sep 1 21:01:41 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: Boy, the fifth season is weak References: <20020901123331.25185.00000616@mb-fw.aol.com> Date: 01 Sep 2002 21:01:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 65 sjim67@aol.com (James Allen) writes: > Saw the two parter where Lisa gets married (never saw it before), > and boy did it typify everything that was wrong with Season 5. Not > only was the plot stupid (the character of John Johnson was none too > interesting), but the character of Dave degenerated into just one > big milquetoast nag, Lisa was an idiot, Jimmy James was a complete > clown, and Max was just annoying (since this was toward the end of > the season, it looks like they realized what a dud John Lovitz was > and they gave him less and less to say.) I agree with everything you said. There are good single scenes and plot points in the fifth season, and even a couple episodes I like early in the season, but I can't bear to watch some of them. As someone else said, "Wedding" is surely the worst. The one where Max worries about being too "weird" is good, as is the one where they open the letters from Bill (the first ep, I assume). Dave, who was always the central character around whom all the wacky people revolved, turns into a shadow of his former self. Gone is Nice Midwestern Dave, but gone also is Evil Overworked Dave. All that's left is a guy holding a coffee cup who's unsure about everything. Neither of the old Daves would have agreed to be Johnny's best man, that's for sure. Lisa just gets stupid. She was always impulsive, despite her normal logical attitude, but that can't account for her obsession with Johnny going on for so long. A fling would have made sense, but marrying him after all that time -- and his becoming a wino -- just went too far. Jimmy goes from being an eccentric billionaire to a loser that hangs around the office with nowhere to go. He owns his own jet and took Dave to Japan for lunch one day earlier in the series, but when the feds are after him, he hides at Dave's house? Come on. He's supposed to be eccentric, not stupid. Beth was always neurotic and shrill, but it's like they told her to just focus on those attributes and leave out everything else. Almost every line she has is delivered in a strange voice, either shrill or with some other affectation. > Not to say that these characteristics weren't part of what these > characters were, but the shadings were all but gone at this point, > devolving into caricatures. I like the Dave, Lisa, and Jimmy of the > early shows. Not here, though. Only Beth seems to retain an ounce of > her old self. (Joe and Matt were always one-notish anyway, so they > really had nowhere to go, either up or down.) That's probably why some of the bright spots in season 5 come from Matthew, like when he goes 'punk' and "Smart Matthew". (I think that second one is season 5.) He was already so bizarre that they couldn't do much to hurt him. > I know I'm saying the obvioius here, but it just struck me so (as I > don't generally watch season 5 anyway.) I watched them all through once, to make sure I didn't miss anything good. Now I just try to keep track of where they are in the series, so I can start watching again when they start over -- or with the final ep, which was pretty good. -- Aaron From nobody Sat Oct 5 09:39:49 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: NewsRadio v. Other Sitcoms References: <upskdd4g5akgfd@corp.supernews.com> <20021004231923.25464.00011646@mb-md.aol.com> Date: 05 Oct 2002 09:39:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 27 drewwezley@aol.comiserate (Believe the Hype) writes: > Matthew being a dentist was an odd quirk that had a payoff, > comedically. > Having Lisa take the job (even under the auspices of it being as an > 'undercover reporter') and then KEEP the job was just shameful. It made perfect sense to me. Lisa is an over-achiever who always tries to get the job done right. When she gets praised for her hard work, she takes it to heart and throws herself fully into the job -- the nature of the job is irrelevant. Note that we see her get very little praise for her hard work at WNYX. While she's dating Dave, he avoids rewarding or praising her because of the conflict of interest. She gets passed over for news director when Dave is hired, and only gets the job temporarily later because Andrea PlanB likes her. She spends most of her time otherwise doing Matthew's work and dealing with Bill. It's not surprising that a little praise in another job would affect her. Now Lisa's agreeing to marry Johnny -- *that* was out of character. -- Aaron From nobody Sun Oct 6 09:47:13 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: NewsRadio v. Other Sitcoms References: <60017c04.0210040909.16d3b139@posting.google.com> <20021004203433.07070.00011685@mb-mv.aol.com> <3da1b4b4.119249711@news-server.houston.rr.com> <upuga7a1raiaf7@corp.supernews.com> <3D9F6180.4010901@newsfeeds.com> Date: 06 Oct 2002 09:47:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 16 Eeyore48 <eeyore48@newsfeeds.com> writes: > True! But for my money, the WORST thing a show can do is that > season-long, tortured, TRYING to have a baby thing. Mad About You, > Coach and Roseanne are the ones that spring to mind, but dozens have > done it. Total shark-bait - not only is it over-used, it's boring > and offensive. Yeah, but those shows were boring and offensive from the start. (I guess Coach wasn't actually offensive, but certainly boring.) -- Aaron From nobody Tue Oct 8 06:54:52 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: NewsRadio v. Other Sitcoms Date: 08 Oct 2002 06:54:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 16 Paul Atreides <atreides@sover.net> writes: > Man, I thought I was the only one who hated Mad About You. We should > start a support group. It's one of the worst things I've ever seen. I've hated Paul Reiser from his stand-up days, and Helen Hunt's character is so awful that her tremendous looks can't make her watchable in this show. On top of that, it's got that Woody Allen-ish, "overly self-conscious insecure-yet-hip New Yorkers running around talking about their worries in apartments" vibe going on. Puke. -- Aaron From nobody Tue Nov 26 06:21:29 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: It's about damned time for a poll. References: <Xns92D1CC0907787atreidessovernet@64.154.60.178> <20021125202157.01555.00005718@mb-mu.aol.com> Date: 26 Nov 2002 06:21:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 13 tavie@aol.complaintbx (Tay-vee) writes: > Unless this questions was just for the guys, in which case, I still > choose Lisa and Catherine, Lisa for her pouty lips and Catherine for > her gorgeous rack. :P Yep. I'll take Lisa and Catherine for these and those and this and that. -- Aaron From nobody Tue Nov 26 06:28:56 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: Khandi Alexander SECRET References: <20021125203247.04435.00000156@mb-fk.aol.com> <Xns92D292A1E429hecubus43hotmailcom@130.133.1.4> Date: 26 Nov 2002 06:28:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 14 Rick <hecubus43@hotmail.com> writes: > > Does Khandi Alexander have breast implants? > Nope. She has two bald little people who sit on specially made seats > which she straps over her shoulders to give the illusion of breasts. "There's a midget under her dress pushing up." "Lucky midget! Midgets get everything." -Tom Servo/Crow, MST3K, 'Quest of the Delta Knights' -- Aaron From nobody Tue Dec 3 06:41:54 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: LateLine References: <20021202210643.28385.00000219@mb-cm.aol.com> <uuoc7clv8hendc@corp.supernews.com> Date: 03 Dec 2002 06:41:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 12 kenny@panix.com (Kenneth Crudup) writes: > >Did anyone watch this Al Franken show? > No, but I heard it was funny. With Al Franken? Seems unlikely. -- Aaron From nobody Tue Dec 3 13:57:36 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: LateLine Date: 03 Dec 2002 13:57:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 12 kenny@panix.com (Kenneth Crudup) writes: > Wha? Al Franken cracks *me* up, anyway. I'll admit his Stuart Smalley bits on SNL were usually pretty funny, but everything else he does leaves me cold. I don't mind political humor, but I prefer not to be bludgeoned with it. (see: Bill Maher). -- Aaron From nobody Thu Dec 5 17:50:23 2002 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: Difference between NewsRadio and other Sitcoms, part II References: <3DEEA30F.3040506@baerana.com> <65612c80.0212051313.2cf7a685@posting.google.com> <3DEFE15D.7010005@baerana.com> Date: 05 Dec 2002 17:50:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 17 Eeyore48 <eeyore48@baerana.com> writes: > > There's a bit in "Zoso" where they fail on this. How does LISA > > know about Fat Albert characters? > Yeah - OTOH, I know a bit about it - never seen an episode but a > friend of me made jokes about it - some stuff like that you just > pick up And we just know that Lisa's parents didn't have TV. We don't know that she never saw the Cosby Kids at a friend's house some Saturday morning. -- Aaron From nobody Sun Jan 26 07:56:45 2003 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: Your Choice for Phil Hartmann's replacement References: <JGBY9.15791$LA4.1269165@news1.west.cox.net> <3e3339f5$0$30793$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Organization: ESC Date: 26 Jan 2003 07:56:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 32 "Jason Smith" <jason@unction.com> writes: > I don't really know about other actors, but I agree that Jon Lovitz > was just horrible. I thought the problem with Max was that they ran out of ideas for him pretty quickly. His first couple episodes, where he's worrying about being fired and being too weird, were good. In fact, the interaction between Max and Dave was very good, because Max got on Dave's nerves -- although in different ways than Bill did. But after a few episodes, Max became this giggling, vaguely effeminate blob. Dave pretty much faded into an ineffectual nothingness once the truly awful Lisa-Johnny plot started, so there was nothing left of the Dave-Max relationship, which was all the character of Max had going for it. A strange sort-of-crush between Max and Beth couldn't replace it, either. Max does have one of my favorite lines, though: Beth: Mr. James, I represent the entire staff. Jimmy: Max, does Beth represent you? Max: No. Jimmy: And you're helping her because...? Max: She's a cute girl with red hair. That pretty much sums up the male experience, as I see it. -- Aaron From nobody Sun Feb 2 16:00:42 2003 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: Best Episodes?? References: <20030202131456.24456.00000409@mb-ck.aol.com> <3E3D634B.4010409@baerana.com> Organization: ESC Date: 02 Feb 2003 16:00:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 17 Eeyore48 <eeyore48@baerana.com> writes: > The one that always springs to mind is "security door" I'm the only > fan I've ever heard say that, but I could watch "Security Door" 10 > times a day. Yeah, that's one of my favorites too. Dave's getting fed up with the crew is hilarious. The bit with the drawings of how to use the door are the best, when Matthew raises his hand, and Dave's already got a picture drawn to answer what to do if a wizard comes along. And the picture of them all on fire. I chuckle just thinking about that scene. -- Aaron From nobody Mon Mar 10 14:27:36 2003 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: FBI References: <17116-3E6B4CBB-618@storefull-2335.public.lawson.webtv.net> <Xns9339B3FDD2697atreidessovernet@64.154.60.178> <GZSaa.136870$XB3.12925@news1.west.cox.net> <Xns933A8D539F2A8atreidessovernet@64.154.60.178> <3E6CE5D1.9000709@baerana.com> Organization: ESC Date: 10 Mar 2003 14:27:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 24 Eeyore48 <eeyore48@baerana.com> writes: > Why is no one still discussion Profiler, but there is a hard-core > group in here still discussing NewsRadio? Is it the quality of the > show? Or is it because the people in here have a closer > relationship to each other? Or what? What do you think is the > difference? I can't say about Profiler specifically, but in some cases, it's because of alternative places to discuss the same topic. There are so many web-based bulletin boards these days, and newcomers to the Internet are more likely to find them than Usenet (most people never do find Usenet). It's the same way in sports newsgroups. The group for the St. Louis Blues NHL team is almost completely dead, yet other NHL team groups may be thriving and busy. It's not because the Blues have fewer fans; it's just because a St. Louis newspaper created a web-based board that's very popular and busy. -- Aaron From nobody Sat May 3 05:58:18 2003 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: Johnny Johnson? References: <b8vljf$pg0$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net> Organization: ESC Date: 03 May 2003 05:58:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 17 "wesco" <ganggreen@nest.net> writes: > A local station runs NR every weekday at 5:00PM & the last few days > have been the DB Cooper episodes with Johnny Johnson. Does anybody > agree that these three episodes are actually a lot better than > they're given credit for by most NR fans? I'd say they're the best Johnny Johnson episodes. The show didn't really take an ugly turn until it focused on the Lisa-Johnny thing. (Or maybe that happened at the same time; I haven't seen them in a while. In that case, the D.B. Cooper parts were good; the Lisa lusting after Johnny parts were awful.) -- Aaron From nobody Mon May 26 09:28:11 2003 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: I just noticed something References: <20030524111231.09515.00000414@mb-m11.aol.com> Organization: ESC Date: 26 May 2003 09:28:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 20 xxpunkfoleyfanxx@aol.com (Kaitlyn) writes: > I was watching a few of the NewsRadio episodes I taped and noticed > something that made me think. In the office they only have one > elevator to go down to the lobby but in the lobby they had two > elevators. The one episode where Beth's copy cat friend was working > as a temp, Beth went down and came out of one elevator. Then Dave > and Lisa came out of the other. Is it just me or is there something > wrong with that? There could be another elevator on the floor but > I've never seen it. Obviously Beth was afraid that Nancy might follow her, so she got off at the 10th floor, waited there a while, switched to the express elevator that doesn't stop at WNYX's floor, and rode it the rest of the way down to throw Nancy off her trail. -- Aaron From nobody Sun Nov 26 11:50:41 2006 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: "Kissing your sister" quote From: Aaron Baugher <aaron_baugher@yahoo.com> Organization: Baugher Salvage and Really Wild Stuff Corporation Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:50:39 -0600 Message-ID: <86ac2eksgg.fsf@cail.baugher.pike.il.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 13 Can someone help me with this Bill quote? I think I'm remembering it about half right, and, amazingly enough, I haven't had any luck googling it: Bill: <something> is like kissing your sister. Sure, she's a sweet <something> with a great pair of blouse bunnies, but it's just wrong, Dave. -- Aaron -- http://www.myspace.com/aaronbaugher "Take what you need and leave the rest." From nobody Thu Dec 7 08:35:44 2006 Newsgroups: alt.tv.newsradio Subject: Re: "Kissing your sister" quote References: <86ac2eksgg.fsf@cail.baugher.pike.il.us> <1165454349.378953.287430@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com> From: Aaron Baugher <aaron_baugher@yahoo.com> Organization: Baugher Salvage and Really Wild Stuff Corporation Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:35:41 -0600 Message-ID: <86psavrcxu.fsf@cail.baugher.pike.il.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 35 "rockrevolt" <rockrevolt@mail.com> writes: > Aaron Baugher wrote: >> Can someone help me with this Bill quote? I think I'm remembering it >> about half right, and, amazingly enough, I haven't had any luck >> googling it: >> >> Bill: <something> is like kissing your sister. Sure, she's a sweet >> <something> with a great pair of blouse bunnies, but it's just wrong, >> Dave. > Are you thinking of the "French your daddy" quote from the episode > where Bill takes beth to the luncheon in "Luncheon at the Waldorf" > from season 1? I don't remember the bit about blouse bunnies and I > know NewsRadio quotes pretty well. No, although that's a great one. I'm so ashamed; somehow I got Phil Hartman mixed up with Charlie Sheen. The quote I'm thinking of is from the movie Hot Shots (from IMDB): My father used to say that not playing to win is like sleeping with your sister. Sure she's a great piece of tail, with a blouse full of goodies, but... it's just illegal. Then you get into that whole inbred thing. Kids with no teeth who do nothing but play the banjo... eat apple sauce through a straw... pork farm animals. In my defense, it *sounds* like something Bill would say.